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22 November 2003

Question of the day

is there yet any proof Osama had anything to do with 9/11?

A question someone actually asked at the A.L.S. website
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Hating Israel

Some dweeb named Michael Talismann sent me an angry e-mail promising he had intellectually demolished me on his blog, over my Niall Cook/Israel post.

It was somewhat underwhelming. He adopts the politically-correct pose of modern Israel-hatred: put revolting anti-Jewish conspiracy theories inside a pretence to independent, honest thinking, and make it look like you're arguing against prejudice. Though I fear saying this makes him sound a lot smarter than he is.

This post is devoted to one such idiot. He thinks he is a “conservative” but to me he proves himself anything but.

Remarkable, considering I've never claimed to be a conservative, have posted numerous "why I'm not a conservative" items, support gay rights and drug legalisation. This is some insightful, investigative genius we've got here.

In fact, his entire post looks like a anti-Israel conspiracy rant with a cut-n-pasted article from Haaretz chucked in to make it look as if he knows what he's talking about.

In post after post of gushing, embarrassingly-poorly researched fawning dribble, he time and again seeks to prove his worth to his political masters in Tel Aviv.

Hey, it's those nasty, conspiring Jewboys at it again. Pity I'm an atheist.

Cue a rash of stupid rhetorical questions....

Why can’t these people just be loyal to Australia and its close allies?

I am. Next.

Why does he need to choose a side in a conflict that is not ours?

Palestine's Greatest Hero

Hajj Amin Al Husseini, pictured with his German pals.

Hitler's wartime ally, a man Arafat hailed as "our hero".

A man even Edward Said claimed had overwhelming support among Palestinian muslims.

Al Husseini demanded the extermination of all Jews in the Middle East.

Of course, the Jews are the bad guys...right?

Because one side is a democratic country which respects the rule of law and human rights, whereas the other side has rejected every peace offer and has at every stage attempted to exterminate the Jewish population in the Middle East.

Besides, if you believe what you say, then why are you bothering to write about this at all, if it is no concern of yours?

Trained, since birth, to respect, obey, admire and cherish the real benefits that we derive from our “alliance” with the Israelis.

Since birth? If you say so. Except I had little interest in the issue up until a few years ago. Talk about building a straw man.

Then there's three paragraphs of some demented rant against the Australia-Israel alliance, or something. This guy has serious problems sticking to the point.

I don’t begrudge the Israelis for what they do. They are perhaps the most pure, undistilled example of a self-interest-motivated people in the history of the concept.

Can't imagine why that would be, considering their neighbours have been trying to exterminate them for most of their history.

Through initiation rites, that person will be brought into the world’s longest-lasting anti-humanistic, anti-universalistic tribe in the world. And I, a Gentile, will be forever merely that to them.

Thank you, Dr. Streicher.

That they will go on to forever play lip-service to Israel as their spiritual “homeland” is nauseating. That they would sell Australia or America down the river for a nation they never may have visited is despicable.

This loon is off his meds. Who is he talking about who has "sold us down the river"? Oh, he means the filthy Jews.

And the lackeys. Oh Jesus, how they piss me off. One step away from being comdemned traitors in my books

Ya got me: I confess! I've been selling Australian babies to the Jooooos for their blood-rites ceremonies!

Then, after cutting and pasting my entire article, he goes on with this:

But none of that would occur for a moment to our red-necked friend here. He has his good guy in white (Israel and all Jews) and the bad guy in black (all stinky Arabs) and that is all he needs to know.

No, I've got the history of Arab attempts to slaughter Jews in the middle East. It's the history none of our Israel-hating loons seem to keen to discuss.

That;s fine with me, if that was as far as it went. If he wanted to wallow in fucking stupidity and servile glee, who am I to intrude? But when he thinks he is showing off his knowledge of the Israeli/Arab conflict, and only displays a stunning lack of basic knowledge, it annoys the shit out of me.

Conservative, Leftist, Greenie, whatever. I don’t care. But do your fucking homework. If you want to believe something, about anything, good or bad, learn about it first. THEN make up your fucking small-assed mind about it.

I have. Sorry it doesn't fit into your paranoid Evil-Jew-Conspiracies.

To mask his own meathead argument, our paragon of intellectual virtue then cut-n-pastes an article from Haaretz.

Some of which is almost comically insane. Some of my favourites:

- "the obvious effort the Palestinians are making to rehabilitate the trust in them".

ie. Go drive yourselves into the sea Jew-boys, or we'll start killing you again.

You will notice there is no mention of the PLO and Hamas official charters continuing to promise the destruction of Israel.

- Notice the lie about "occupied Palestinian territories". You know, the ones the Arabs lost in their war of Jew-extermination which they started.

- Lots of waffle of "sovereignty". Naturally, no mention that all these borders and secrutity arrangements were the bare minimum for Israel's to be able to defend itself from the Arabs who still have the destruction of Israel as part of their charter.

A question for Michael, Niall and other Israel-hating freaks: do you seriously believe any Muslim nation or militant group would not destroy Israel if they were able to do so? Muslims haven't wiped out the Jews because they can't. Jews haven't wiped out Muslims because they don't want to.

Do you dolts not understand the difference?

Back to the article.....

- This crap:

Why did the peace process fall apart just as it was making real progress toward a permanent agreement?

Palestinians entered the peace process on the understanding that (1) it would deliver concrete improvements to their lives during the interim period [...] But the peace process delivered none of these things. Instead, Palestinians suffered more burdensome restrictions on their movement

Gosh, I guess the Palestinian homicide goons had nothing to do with this.

and a serious decline in their economic situation.

Arafat has strangely been able to accumulate Swiss bank accounts worth more than $300 million. Strange he doesn't share the wealth.

Israeli colonies expanded at an unprecedented pace and the West Bank and Gaza Strip became more fragmented with the construction of settler "by-pass" roads and the proliferation of Israeli military checkpoints.

In other words, Arabs can keeping blowing up Jews, but the Jews need to stick by the rules.

Nah, no double-standards to see here folks.

Deadlines were repeatedly missed in the implementation of agreements. In sum, Palestinians simply did not experience any "progress" in terms of their daily lives.

Funny, it looks like homicidal Muslims might have had a lot to do with this.

- and some more:

Palestinians felt that they had been betrayed by Israel

Jesus, even the Saudi negotiator (Prince Bandar) told Arafat that they could not hope for a better offer, and described Arafat's rejection of it as a "crime".

- and finally, this vile lunacy:

The refugees were never seriously discussed at Camp David because Prime Minister Barak declared that Israel bore no responsibility for the refugee problem or its solution.

I guess the $30 billion compensation package didn't count for much then eh? (come to think of it, the Arab nations never seemed too keen on giving them refuge. What? You mean the Arabs were willing to use their own people as pawns to use against Jews??)

Obviously, there can be no comprehensive solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict without resolving one of its key components: the plight of the Palestinian refugees.

Damn those Jews and their filthy compensation money!

And, maybe it's impolite to ask: but why haven't any Arab nations offered to resettle Jewish refugees, driven out of other middle-eastern countries?

Great article eh? Could have been scribed by Arafish himself.

Now that his cut-and-paste substitute for argument has ended, Michael Talismann continues with his own ravings:

Every single assertion made by the “Conservative” blogger proven to be completely mistaken. Simple total lack of education on his part.

Sorry, your PLO propaganda is rather feeble.

BTW, I'm not a "conservative" blogger. Does this mullet actually do any research himself?

I suppose that, being a man of integrity, he will apologize to Niall Cook. Yeah, right.

Don't hold your breath, conspiracy freakboy.

But it isn’t his fault. He has been lied to, a lot. By Zionistic lobbyists, by mindless, uncritical political commentators,

"Zionist lobbyists". Sheesh.

Care to name some of these Zionist propagandists, creepoid?

and lastly, most sad of all, he is driven by a need to reflexically oppose everything that the people on the left assert.

Apart from my support for gay rights, abortion, drug legalisation and anti-censorship. Try learning to read sometime.

And "reflexically"? I think you mean reflexively. Surprised you didn't know that with all your education.

And last, he gives us this:

Oh, one last thing. As though to the insubstantiality of this guy's assertions, I checked a few of the links to a supposed plethora of anti-semitic sites that were out there.

It appears your brains are what is insubstantial: I stated clearly they were posts from the aus.politics newsgroup, not "anti-semitic sites". Idiot.

Well, not one of the links worked. Nor did many of the others that he had on his site.

The only ones which didn't work are the ones for the collected posts under particular names, and the "should jews be exterminated" one has been fixed. All the others seem to work fine.

By the way, the link you gave to my site is for the site URL, you didn't even use the permalink to the Niall Cook piece. You're not quite in a position to give lectures on correct linking, are ya?

Maybe he thought nobody would bother to check. He sure doesn't.

Except I did. They worked for 2 days. I guess Google Groups is a little volatile. Tell you what dumbass, here's some simple instructions even you should be able to follow:

Go to www.google.com.au
Click on "groups"
Type in "aus.politics"
Do a search in that newsgroup for all those names I mentioned. You know, those non-existent anti-semites of yours.

The funniest thing? This sad troglodyte has me in his blogroll as a recommended link. Hehehehe.
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