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20
July 2005
Quote
of the day
Mr.Burns:
Quick Smithers. Bring the mind eraser device!
Smithers:You mean the revolver, sir?
Mr.Burns: Precisely.
-
The Simpsons
Ciao
Svën
Ace
ozblogger Steve Edwards has
quit.
Bummer.
Have fun dude.
This
week's commies
Some
bit's n' pieces From the new Communist
Party of Australia newsletter:
"Detention
of Cubans in US illegal"
Yeah?
How about the detention of the entire Cuban population in Cuba? I guess
our Stalinist friends aren't too concened about that.
"CAPITALIST
HOG OF THE WEEK: is Warren Mundine. An appointee to the
Howard government's National Indigenous Council, a rubber stamp for
the government's racist policies, Mundine is a proponent of the individualism
promoted by capitalism, including individual home ownership in Aboriginal
communities."
That
racist bastard: promoting individual rights and home ownership!!
"The
struggle for the maintenance of democratic rights in Australia
is becoming yet another major issue confronting all progressive organisations.
The steady slide to dictatorship which is being step by step pushed
by the Howard government must be stopped before all means to resist
it have been taken away."
And
these people praise Joseph Stalin and Fidel castro as great, visionary
leaders.
Is
there anything in the world more disgusting than a communist?
Tax
evasion and morality
Some
opinions that have come in re. yesterday's
question:
From
Michael S.
Tax
evasion under our current situation is not morally wrong. Because something
is law
does not make it right. 'Right' is simply something that offers the
most benefit to
society, and can be shown to offer the most benefit to society through
due process of
reason. High taxation does not meet this criteria. Some people would
argue that no
taxation meets this criteria, and I don't know, but I am sure the current
level of
taxation is not conducive to maximising the benefit to society as a
whole (and 'society
as a whole' means on average maximum benefit to the individuals in that
society).
Another way of putting this is that 'right' is maximising the benefits
of individuals
coming together as a society while minimising the negative effects,
such that all
individuals feel that they are better off participating in society than
not, hence they
don't want to resist society's intervention in their lives, and we have
a harmonious
society with maximum happiness and prosperity. Excessive taxation, such
as our current
circumstances, does not permit this to happen.
On
the other hand, Robert G. argues....
Yes.
It's morally wrong.
There seem to me to be three basic arguments "for", which
are:
a) tax rates are oppressively high
b) completely disagree with income tax as a policy (for moral or economic
reasons)
c) (current) govt. wastes incredible amounts of money/is inefficient
If 'b', well, you're free to form your own old-school Libertarian party,
run for office and get rid of it. Good luck. You can't opt out of government
programs. I may disagree with the running of the education system, but
I won't get a reduction in my property taxes 'cos of it. I can't opt
out of certain parts of the legal system on account of disagreeing with
many of the statutes. If "moral" stands can be taken in one
way, they can be taken in others. System falls apart, end of civilization
as we know it, etc., sayeth Sir Humphrey Appleby.
If 'c': the problem here is that it's always going to be a question
of degree (I'm Canadian--we probably have a high tolerance of govt.
waste beaten into us from an early age). How wasteful is too wasteful?
And what right does one citizen have to decide and act upon his decision
in this way? If one thinks that Government or the current "system"
is intrinsically inefficient, then you're back to 'b' and can do something
about it at the polls.
If 'a', and you hear this argument most often in my part of the world,
then again, you're dealing in degree. At what point does personal income
tax become an infringement on liberty, or whatever? 5%? 10%? Again,
I don't see how the individual has the right to decide and act.
Of course, I assume we're talking stable democracy here. I could foresee
reasons for evading as a protest in extreme circumstances, but the threshold
for that would have to be pretty extreme.
Paul
Bickford says....
tax
evasion is legal, tax avoidance isn't- that's in the definitions of
the Fiscal Fiend. I think it's every taxpayer's responsibility to avoid
as much tax as legally possible, as Kerry Packer said to federal parliament
"anyone who doesn't avoid whatever tax they can is a fool".
It keeps the ATO fully staffed and provides lots of tax lawyers and
accountants with lucrative income streams, thus contributing to the
nation's employment.
Really, anyone who doesn't get out of any taxes and charges they can
is a bit of a fuckwit- does anyone really think they get value for money
from the system?
Morals have bugger-all to do with it; it's legalised extortion, and
since when is not paying extortionists immoral?
I'd like to see it made voluntary with the exception of a base charge
for defense, security and national interest items that can't be privately
funded, or failing that, fully simplified to reduce the avoidance clauses
and loopholes, and rates slashed accordingly.
Income tax was, after all, brought in as a temporary measure in WW2
to assist the war effort- I reckon we've probably paid for those B24s
by now.
Anyone
else want to chip in? How about you, Jason?
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